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Tennessee
The following are testimonials submitted to this site. To tell your story, please go here. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Robert My loan started out at under $45,000. The payoff now is over a quarter of a million dollars. My loans has been passed around six to seven times. I will have to get that info. I know that student loan express now has it. But the ones I can remember are Wachovia & Nations. They cant seem to able to tell me the straight scoop on my interest rate. When I look online and call its 5.25%. When I get my statement it is 8.25%. I will add to this. HELP! Currently on deferment. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Tracy Lynn I
saw
a commercial
for
a school
in Nashville
in 1989
that
offered
computer
and
paralegal
classes.
It seemed
like
a great
place,
smaller
classes,
I could
attend
at night
a few
days
a week
and
still
keep
my day
job
in addition
to raising
a baby
on my
own.
I just
wanted
to better
myself
and
my childs
life
by having
an education.
I signed
up and
the
office
people
gave
me only
one
choice
of loan
to apply
for.
I did
not
know
for
years
that
there
were
MANY
places
to apply
for
student
aid.
So in
attending
this
place
for
approximately
a year
I signed
two
loan
agreements
from
horton
bank
for
2625.00
a total
of 5250.00.
I became
increasingly
frustrated
with
the
school
because
I wasn't
really
learning
anything
and
the
teachers
kept
quitting
and
revolving
so much
that
I never
knew
who
would
be in
class
from
day
to day.
some
teachers
didn't
even
show
up sometimes
and
we sat
in three
hours
of class
doing
nothing.
I got
fed
up with
what
I felt
it was
a really
phoney
situa! Maybe
six
months
later,
the
FBI
and
the
TBI
(TN
Bureau
of Investigation)
shut
the
school
down,
took
out
entire
file
cabinets
of information
and
padlocked
the
doors.
This
schools
name
was
Edmondson
Junior
College
on Murfreesboro
Road
in Nashville,
TN.
Six
employees
were
prosecuted
for
defrauding
the
Dept
of Education
by coaching
students
to falsify
financial
assistant
applications,
altering
ability
to benefit
tests,
and
altering
and
destroying
financial
aid
records
in an
attempt
to cover
up the
fraudulent
activity
in addition
to signing
school
loan
checks
for
students
no longer
enrolled
in the
school.
I could
not
prove
I went
to school,
I could
not
transfer
any
credits
to another
school
and
they
did
not
refund
my unused
portion
of monies
not
used
when
I signed
out
of school.
I really
thought
for
several
years
I could
fight
this.
Some
people
got
their
loans
discharged
because
it closed
down
while
they
were
attending
or they
had
dropped
out
only
90 days
prior.
since
it had
been
at least
6 months
for
me since
leaving
the
school
NOBODY
would
help
me.
I really
thought
I had
a decent
case
because
my education
I received
was
worthless,
nontransferable
credits
and
they
took
the
remainder
of money
not
used
from
the
loan.
Well
by 93
it went
into
default.
I still
felt
like
somebody
should
work
with
me on
this
situation
but
to no
avail,
nobody
cared.
Well
in 96
they
started
harassing
me at
my job
daily
til
I gave
in and
agreed
to payments
and
a consolidation.
Heck
I still
don't
even
know
what
consolidation
is.
The
company
I was
working
for
closed
down
and
sent
our
jobs
overseas
and
to Mexico.
So I
was
in a
tremendous
financial
bind.
I got
my car
repossessed
after
paying
on it
3.5
years.
I liked
6 months
having
it paid
off!
I was
in extreme
financial
straits
and
the
loan
defaulted
again
in 97.They
have
been
taking
my income
tax
returns
every
year
and
at this
point! Right now as of 4-13-05 I have paid in between payments and income tax returns they took from me 11,695.14 Two weeks ago I got a call at work from someone who did not identify themselves first, nor tell me what company they were calling from, they simply stated they had an outstanding balance of 2,953.77 and they wanted to know how i intended to pay it back.I said can you fax me a copy of this? she said I do not have to fax you ANYTHING! very hateful and very mean tone. I said can you tell me how much my original loan was? she said I dont have to give you that information either. She proceeded to start screaming at me. I had to yell over her to explain the school closed I had a fraudulent education and she replied that was my own stupidity for attending an unaccredited school. The yelling went back and forth until she told me she would be garnishing my wages and hung up on me. I was so upset and mad during this conversation that it did not dawn on me that the woman didnt even bother to tell me who she was or what company she represented!! Well a week went by and this mysterious phone call (they block their number on the caller ID)was made to the book keeper at my job and she said she wanted to know how long I had been employed there. My boss by now was aware of the situation going on and he told the book keeper to get a name a number and company she was representing and that any information like that would not be given over the phone. She would have to fax it to our business to be read and filled out and she would fax it back. Well the woman did not want to give her name or the company but finally gave in and gave the info. Pioneer Credit Recovery Inc. Well they never faxed anything. This week they call and this time it was the screaming woman again in the beginning. A simply impossible woman to deal with. She stated not only were they going to garnish me they were going to take my income tax return again this year and that this would continue to happen to me for the rest of my life. Yes I said the rest of my life until I agreed to make VOLUNTARY payments. She claimed that my income tax return and the garnishment would not go towards paying off my debt. This scared me to death. Well she continued yelling and so did I, until this really nice con man got on the phone and basically calmed me down. He almost had me talked into making payments of 50 a month and doing the rehab on my loan. I got him to fax me papers about it and he told me to call him back at 3:30 and he would walk thru the paper work with me on the phone word by word. At this time I had no idea they could garnish me without going to court. My boss was convinced this could not occur either. So he suggested they give me a copy of the garnishment order to read over before agreeing to sign these papers for the 50 a month payments. Well I called Pioneer back at 3:00 pm instead of the 3:30 pm appointment time. I once again get the screaming woman who says she is the man I spoke to earliers supervisor and that he was busy and she wasnt going to let me speak to him the rest of the day! I said fine. Tell Jeremy I called and heres my number and I am going to work with him on this situation. She said hes not calling you back you will have to deal with me. I said fine, send me a copy of the garnishment order you are intending to send to me and my boss so I can see its for real before I agree to sign this agreement. She said you will receive a copy soon and so will your boss. I said so you are going to garnish me and try to make me make payments plus take my income tax refund she said yes! This blew me away. We again started getting loud on the phone and I finally gave up in disgust and told her to tell Jeremy to return my call, and that I refused to talk to anyone who cannot treat me like a human being and hung up on her. I called Sallie Mae last week and got my original files with my signature and my repayments that had been made so far and was blown away I'd already paid 11,695.14! I called a lady named Terry at USA funds where the loan came from and she was actually pretty nice. She said they were indeed taking my income tax refund again this year however they were unable to take it all. my refund this year is for 3052.00 and they are taking a little less than 2,400. I said why not take the entire amount owed and she said we can't do that. So her advice to me was for me to be patient and let them apply the 2400 to the outstanding balance and then write them a cashier check for the remaining 640.00 some odd dollars that will still be owed from the remaining amount of the refund I will receive that they cannot take. So, I filed electronically today. It will take 6 to 8 weeks for this to take place with the refund being taken and applied to my balance. In the meantime I await a garnishment proceeding to start any day now and probably take place the entire time until my income tax refund reaches them and I get to pay off the remaining balance. By the way I only make 7.00 an hour and I support a legally blind disabled teenager as well as look after an 86 year old aunt. I do not know if it is true or not but they say they are going to garnish 25% of my bring home pay. But my friends...daylight is in sight for me finally because of my income tax refund paying it off for me this year. it appears that a 5100 dollar loan will cost you 14,648.91. According to these papers I have my account accrues 59 cents per day interest so it may be a slightly higher figure by the time I actually get to the point of payoff! I could have went to the mafia and got a loan for less payback than this! Sallie Mae is a crook and its a shame and disgrace what they are doing to people!!! Please say a little prayer for me that this truly will end this hell I have lived through for so many years. Finally I can start to rebuild my credit!!
Addendum: Also
note
that
it is
now
going
on 2
years
later
and
they
still
have
not
backed
off.
According
to some
of the
creditors
I have
now
paid
in 17,000
and
still
will
not
give
me a
payoff
figure.
Just
more
run
around.
They
are
back
to harrassing
me daily
at home.
Every
morning
just
like
clockwork
they
call
my house
at 8:00
am sharp.
They
will
call
again
at noon,
and
again
at 7:00
pm.
Three
times
a day
without
fail.
I am
now
unemployed,
taking
care
of an
88 year
old
with
alzheimers
and
know
without
a doubt
they
will
again
take
my income
tax
return
when
I file
it.
I am
still
without
hope
of ever
seeing
daylight
again.
I know
now
I can
never
return
to school
or educate
myself
to ever
be anything
other
than
a secretary
or waitress
in a
series
of low
paying
jobs.
There
is no
end
in sight.They
are
still
hot
on the
trail
of more
more
money
and
no payoff
in the
near
future. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Genevieve I
received
student
loans
from
sallie
mae
begining
in 2002
to attend
culinary
school.
i owe
them
$43k
and
when
it's
all
said
and
done
i will
have
paid
them
over
$80k.
i have
taken
out
3 forbareances'
and
still
can
not
make
the
$600
a month
payment
to them. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Lori I
graduated
college
in 1995
with
a degree
in Early
Childhood
Education.
I married
and
got
a job
in the
fall
of 1996.
After
a couple
of years
my husband
and
I moved
out
of a
high
crime
area
to the
country.
When
we moved
I owed
$37,000.
I was
unable
to obtain
a job
within
a 5
county
radius.
I was
born
with
a birthdefect
that
left
me hearing
impaired
and
speech
impairment.
After
you
get
used
to my
speech
most
people
don't
have
trouble
understanding
me.
But
like
my first
teaching
job
they
didn't
think
I could
teach
phonics.
During
my first
year
of teaching
I had
to team
teach
with
a "normal"
teacher
who
had
NO impairments.
Even
though
I had
a good
recommendation
I was
never
given
a chance. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Witheld Student
loans
consolidation
needs
truth
in lending.
It is
amazing
that
loans
such
as mine
with
over
100,000
can
be handled
without
the
borrower
really
knowing
the
exact
interest
rate
or what
loans
the
consolidater
will
actually
use
in the
consolidation. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Peter A short synopsis: I am 46 yrs old. I borrowed about $17,000 throughout the 1980's. I have a condition well documented called panic disorder. That condition started before it was even in (then) the DSM-III sic 1981. This condition was virtually incapacitating until the SSRI drugs became available. I struggled through scholl, and aquired enough credits to gainn meaningful employement by 1990, at 30 yrs old. I have yet to complete my degree,but am very close. I worked as a Chemical Lab technician & eventually gained enough experience to gain the title of chemist. Throughout 1990 until the present(2006), The Student loan has gone from 17000 priciple to $ 40,000 principal through deferments. Since then, even though I paid when I was finanacially capable, that debt has swelled at present to $ 109,000 after default, as they proceed to sell off the loan from one agency to another. I wrote the Student Loan people a very through letter ragarding my past and sent it certified mail to insure reception. At no time during this period was it ever aknowleded that I was attempting to communicate with the Student loan people. I juts kept getting form letters telling me I owed yada and the debt getting progressively worse each time I heard from them or the collection agency they passed the loan off to. I finally threw up my hands in dispair and said the heck with it. Let them garnish the 10 % maximum in the State of TN. Now I recieve a letter telling me they are going to take 15 % . My gross income is ~ $32.000 a year. I feel they have stolen my future. I don't feel I can have childern, buy a house, or even hope my social security or 401k, if I build one, is going to be safe in the future. At this poin, I ask myself why I even try ? I could seek permanent disabilty and likely qualify if I was of that rame of mind.
But as I watch this progession ($17,000 principle to a legit $ 40,000 or so with deferments ballooned to $110,000 and counting), I have little hope for the future. What
really
makes
me angry
is knowing
this
is happening
to alot
of people Is there a worse kind of debt to be in than this ? This is our public servants looking out for it's citizens while they run a Trillion dollar deficit, spend money on a questionable war etc, etc ? What is the point of working at all ? I apologize for the emotional components of this letter and hope the data in it helps.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Witheld I am a medical school student who took out his first loans just four months ago. I went to college for 5 years without taking out a penny from the government for my education. About two months after starting medical school, I got a from stating that I had to start repaying my loans because it had been six months since I left college. Naturally, I was outraged because I was in school and and had not taken out a penny for college. The rude customer service rep at Great Lakes didn't care...even after I told her I had only been a borrower for two months. I'd borrow the money from someone else, but the governent is the only game in town.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Judy I have a master's degree in Social Work which I financed with student loans. I figured if I have a master's degree I can surely pay the loan pmt. right? Well, I graduated in 1998, with a student loan of approximately $50,000. I have paid on it for approx. 6 years; around $4500 a year at least for the last 4 years I paid on it, the max you can pay and it all went to interest. I am now in deferrment as I had to leave my job to care for an sick,elderly parent. The payoff is now over $52,000 and my monthly payments will be around $450.00 which is about 25% of my take home pay. I am a Certified Social Worker, we don't do it for the money, but it would be nice to be able to pay your bills. I think the government should be paying me for my service to mankind instead of me having to work and worry like a dog how I am going to make ends meet. The best part of it is that Sallie Mae told me if I consolidate my loans (about 5 years ago) that they could lock in my interest rate and if I paid it by EFT or automatic draft from my bank, they would cut the 8.25% rate down to just 8%. I have not been able to get anyone that would acknowledge it and I finally just gave up with my parent being sick and having to leave my life, job, etc. to move back to TN. The bottom line is they lied to me. I could not refinance my loan when others were getting low interest rates because of consolidating my loans. Talk about "truth in lending." It seems like I am financing the owner of Sallie Mae's opulent lifestyle. I do hope someone starts a class action law suit, because this is just wrong. What kind of country do we live in that actually rewards capitalistic behavior lenders like Sallie Mae demonstrate? My deferrent will be over in about 4 months and I do not know how I will make the payment. SERIOUSLY. By the way, if I should live long enough to have paid it off, I will have paid around $125,000 for my education. And what if I do live, will I have to pay it even when I retire? My goodness! I can see it now, my home being taken away to pay off my student loans! They just can't begin to tell you all this stuff when you are signing your life away at the financial aid office, because no one can imagine the nightmare it creates.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Witheld The worst feeling in the world is getting bullied around. That is exactly what I feel like when I think of Sallie Mae. I can write a 500 page book on how it all went wrong with Sallie Mae and there unfair practices. I do not want to bore you though, so I will make this short. Basically, I have received about 85 letters from Sallie Mae explaining that there is a problem with my social security number. I called the number on the letter and they asked me to fax them a copy of my social security number. I did that several, several times. This has been going on since the spring of 2004. It is now almost February of 2007 and I am still getting these letters in the mail. Seriously, who has the time and energy to fight another battle with Sallie Mae? I know I cant. There will never be enough hours in the day to deal with Sallie Mae. They have no problems sending me letters that I owe them money several times a month, but when it comes to helping me with something so I better assist them, I have a better chance of speaking with the president of the united states than I do with Sallie Mae. I know everyone is preaching that something needs to be done, and it really does. I appreciate all the work some people are doing in solving this issue, but by the time it is resolved our credit history will either be ruined because of Sallie Mae or we would have passed away from this wonderful country and its lending services such as Sallie Mae. I will be more than willing to be interviewed, anything to get our points across yet again. Although being on 60minutes and nationally televised did not help, I am not sure what will. Anyone that would like to do something about this, or has any advice on what to do, please feel free to email me. I will contact you back immediately. Thank You
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